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From: "David M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Sexual experience and death
Hi all
What do we value in sexual experience?
Or more to the point what do we value most in our sexual experiences?
Many and different things no doubt.
No doubt how we experience someone's body is valued and important?
But this is not all or perhaps not the highest value involved.
Desire for physical contact is fine but as human beings we often want
more.
What is this more?
Something more than the body?
Something more than the physical?
Something more than SQ?
We might say that more than just the body, we also desire the person.
The person may be many levels of SQ but even that is not enough.
But what more do we want? The person? What do we want from
another person?
Somehow we want their uniqueness. We do not just want the
SQ they can repeat, the patterns we have experienced before.
We want their future, their possibilities, what is yet unknown
about them and the joint possibilities that may unfold between
two people (any more is perhaps just too complex and dynamic).
Or it may be less about what is gained and more about what is
given.
And then there is loss and death. What is no longer experienced when
a loved one dies? The body remains and is no less physically
experienced. But it is a greatly reduced experience. Reduced in what?
Reduced
in its potential, such that its potential can no longer be experienced, it
is absent.
Such is potential. Potential is something we clearly experience
but cannot entirely pin down. Sure there is SQ and our understanding
of SQ but some experiences give us more than just SQ and the same
again.
Some experiences are richer in DQ than others. Sexual/erotic/love
experiences
with persons are one set of these.
Do MOQers not need to explore all forms of experience for what they tell
us
about SQ and DQ and their value?
Regards
David M
Hi David,
Sexual experience seems to me to be primarily where some strong biological
patterns meets DQ. How we think about, describe and explain it is
primarily social, but may be intellectual. I imagine that's what you're
requesting, some intellectual discussion/exploration. But, your topic seems
much too large. For example, the biology would be very different at age 99,
than at age 18, and that biology profoundly affects not only the sexual
experience, but also how we think about it. It's a moving target.
Maybe you could narrow the topic. Or not.
Marsha
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