Chris: Mati, Ian, Bodvar, Everyone
I think of the intellectual level as driven, at it's very core, by the quest for understanding/knowledge. This Quest for understanding and knowledge is at it's core not in service of anything else, because when you put them alongside one another; the social levels core is that of maintaining a social structure in the face of the continuing ongoing change that occurs in every aspect of live and existence, and to do this it uses whatever means it has to it's disposal - in humanities case even the intellectual level, but in general the biological means it has subjugated. The intellectual level's activity is continuously that of answering questions like "why" and "how" and the like, Questions that at their core isn't asked in service of the social level. Ron: Hello Chris, I think the Quest for knowledge does define an aspect of intellect but I also think it can be defined as that drives ability to shape it's society. The allegory of the heroes adventure into the unknown bringing back a boon to society is the classic intellectual mythos. This theme echoes throughout the MoQ. even in Pirsigs very own life, pointing to our very own experience. This mythos seems to be a universal theme in most human societies. David Buchanan's Liverpool paper touches nicely upon this subject. and if there is any universal definition of the intellectual, this is it. otherwise it's a story about those who wander off and never return.... madness.....Pirsig put it once, this way lies madness. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
