Chris: Even theoretically I think it would be difficult to get a majority to agree on 1) who are the avant-garde, and 2) the means by which they would control society. Am I correct to assume you are not calling for a violent overthrow of democratic governments?
Platt On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Christoffer Ivarsson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Platt: >> Who do you propose do the ruling of the people from the intellectual >> level? >> > > Chris: > Well, it is a delicate question, to be sure. But I think the goal that > humanity should strive for is to build a society that is aimed at balance > between the levels but with a constant supremacy of the intellectual level - > that is, social value patterns must never be allowed to strange peoples > intellectual development. The governance should ideally be one of the > people, a people that is guided by intellectual patterns rather then social > ones first and foremost. One way to bring this about is theoretically that > a avant-garde takes control of society and reshape it in this fashion - this > would not be a democracy of course, but it would be aimed at bringing about > a society where people would be more "enlightened" (to abuse that word a > bit) in the sense that they will be free from the social patterns that > constrained them before and able to focus on intellectual development. That > would be the new norm - originating in the intellectual level and > transferred to the social. > > So, in essence, democracy would be moral when humanity has been raised to a > level when intellectual values is the pre-dominant. As it is now, democracy > will more often then not be in service of the social level. > > > >>> Bo: >>> >>> The ideal intellect-controlled community is democracy with free >>>> press, speech ..etc.. all those patterns that Pirsig lists >>>> >>>> >>> A small point, but - >>> I must protest here. Democracy is "the rule of the people" and so it >>> naturally follows that democracy is only MOQ-moral if the people ruling >>> is >>> ruled by the intellectual level above the social level. This is not the >>> case. Anywhere. >>> >>> //Chris >>> >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
