Whoa ... Marsha, Margaret ... Ron et al

Ian is very "impressed" with Nagarjuna, Ian does indeed have
"middle-way" tattoo'ed on his buttocks, and "excluded-middle"
imprinted any-which-way you slice me .....

I used that phrase - quoting Ron's words - AGAINST those who see all
this rational objective rigour as the goal of our critical analysis -
was using it to contrast DMB's claims for rigour againts my (sic)
"drivel" in this case. It's the meme I have been railing against since
long before I even read ZMM, or anything remotely philosophical.

Don't shoot the messenger.
Ian

On 7/23/08, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] The Intellectual Gauntlet
>
>
> > 'grasping for concrete meanings'
> >
> > what does that sound like to you marsha?
> >
> >
>
> Hi Margaret,
>
> The conventional view.  Well, it is hard to believe Ian wasn't more
> impressed by Nagarjuna.   But it's difficult to break those cultural
> glasses.  I've really worked at it, and I'm not convinced it's mine
> thoroughly inside-out.   And I'm sure all too often my language sounds like
> the old view.  But I would have thought the "middle way" would have really
> attracted him.  He so found of the excluded-middles.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of david
> > > buchanan
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:22 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Intellectual Gauntlet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ian said:
> > > At the risk of winding DMB up further, but I'm serious, I think
> > > the idea of "rigorous" argument is part of the Giant - one reason
> > > I personally prefer conceptual slipping - lateral thinking of
> > > sorts - and joining up dots not otherwise connected in logical,
> > > causal ways. Traditional "rigour" grasps for those concrete meanings.
> > >
> > > dmb replied:
> > > Right. You're not a clueless, drivel-spewing weasel. You're just
> > > trying to be free of the Giant. Yea, that ought to save face. And
> > > you can be certain that people will believe it In fact,  that's
> > > gotta be one of the most believable things I ever heard.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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