> [Krimel]
> It is emotional valance, attraction or repulsion, which ultimately tells
> us whether something is good or bad, right or wrong. 

> [Craig, previously]
> a primate "troop leader" is biological, but a cavalry troop> leader is > 
> social.

> [Krimel]
> Obviously I think that both are social.

[Craig]
This points out our differences.  I think animal behavior is only
biological, you think it can be social.You think our judgment of "good or
bad, right or wrong" is ultimately emotional, I think it isultimately
intellectual.

[Krimel]
I thought I had made it clear that I think that the social is a subset of
the biological. Social behavior or at least the capacity to respond socially
is as much programmed into our genetic code as hair color.

As for whether our sense of good and bad is emotional or intellectual I
think the perception is emotional but the intellectual can over ride it. As
I said previously intellect gives us "free won't" not "free will".



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