Which, Margaret & Marsha,
... is the same intent I had when I quoted Ron's phrase.
Don't you just love tidy endings ;-)
Ian

On 7/24/08, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Margaret:
> don't get too excited - I just thought the expression itself struck me
> as funny - and one that I thought Marsha in particular, but also Ron,
> gav
> AND Ian...et.al.might see the humor in as well.
>
> though it really didn't have much to do with the manhood or any of those
> other
> expressions Ron mentioned OR bathroom humor -
>
> but 'grasping for concrete meaning'...
>
> [grasping in general - it's like the very word itself is at the
> root of all of the 7 deadly sins]
> just seems like such a waste of time
> when one can be painting or dancing or kissing a lover or
> tending a garden or working on a
> motorcycle and taking a drive or just breathing...
>
> this insistence on trying to 'rigourously' define...ugh - how
> exhausting.
>
> 'concrete meaning' - now isn't this an oxymoron?
>
> What might be fun would be to see what we all come up
> with from a zen koan - I'll dig out one of my zen books and post one up
> shortly. Anyone game?
>
> Ron:
> sure! I miss SA. Sorry about the confusion. What I meant about "grasping
> for concrete meaning" is just what you stated, a knee-jerk SOM reaction
> when trying to understand abstract terms. We immediately try to analyze
> concepts
> to gain a better understanding, but this only serves to objectify and
> confuse. It was meant to convey the analyzing of abstract thought. which
> produces paradoxes in meaning.
>
> thanks
>
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