Margaret: don't get too excited - I just thought the expression itself struck me as funny - and one that I thought Marsha in particular, but also Ron, gav AND Ian...et.al.might see the humor in as well.
though it really didn't have much to do with the manhood or any of those other expressions Ron mentioned OR bathroom humor - but 'grasping for concrete meaning'... [grasping in general - it's like the very word itself is at the root of all of the 7 deadly sins] just seems like such a waste of time when one can be painting or dancing or kissing a lover or tending a garden or working on a motorcycle and taking a drive or just breathing... this insistence on trying to 'rigourously' define...ugh - how exhausting. 'concrete meaning' - now isn't this an oxymoron? What might be fun would be to see what we all come up with from a zen koan - I'll dig out one of my zen books and post one up shortly. Anyone game? Ron: sure! I miss SA. Sorry about the confusion. What I meant about "grasping for concrete meaning" is just what you stated, a knee-jerk SOM reaction when trying to understand abstract terms. We immediately try to analyze concepts to gain a better understanding, but this only serves to objectify and confuse. It was meant to convey the analyzing of abstract thought. which produces paradoxes in meaning. thanks Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
