Peter, Your head is not separate and isolated from the wall. Both your head and the wall are shaped and influenced by spacial distortion, bombarded by electrons particles and cosmic rays immersed in atmosphere. Composed of energy.
-Ron -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Corteen Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MD] Tit's ... but the head won't move until it walks! -Peter 2008/7/29 Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hi all, > > SOM - mind and matter, it's more than a thinking convention; we have no > choice but to act as if it's so - just try pretending the wall isn't > there > and try to walk through it, you can't. > > -Peter > > Ron; > Hello Peter, > There is a difference between illusion and hallucination. > when you bump into that wall the SOM interpretation is > that you, isolated in space walked and hit a concrete > wall, when in fact you, a patterns of energy transduced through > less dense patterns of energy and encountered another dense > energy pattern which both the collections of dense energy > repell due to molecular and atomic spin. > or there is a wall spirit which will not allow you to pass > or the wall hates you and hurt you on purpose. Bad wall. > > There are four examples of intellectual patterns describing the same > event. > all thinking conventions, only the SOM one is the one we learned all our > lives and is supported by the language we use and the logic we invented > and > our entire western culture and thought. Which gives it the illusion that > mind separated by matter is reality itself. > > When you see mind and matter as patterns of experience, > subject object becomes a method of describing those experiences. > It becomes secondary to experience. Not experience itself. > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
