Beautiful craigerb; if I were a Tibetan Lama I'd slap my hands together in
dmb's direction - dialogue that Sir!

-Peter

2008/7/31 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> [dmb]
> > subjects and objects are conventional concepts, useful concepts,
> > rather than the starting point of reality or the cause of experience.
> > The MOQ says that experience comes first, that experience IS reality.
>
> But the pre-intellectual experience of bumping into a wall is not
> distinguishable from a headache.  We can't experience bumping into
> a wall as bumping into a wall, before wehave the concepts of
> "body" and "wall".
> Craig
>
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