Hi all,

SOM - mind and matter, it's more than a thinking convention; we have no
choice but to act as if it's so - just try pretending the wall isn't
there
and try to walk through it, you can't.

-Peter

Ron;
Hello Peter,
There is a difference between illusion and hallucination.
when you bump into that wall the SOM interpretation is 
that you, isolated in space walked and hit a concrete
wall, when in fact you, a patterns of energy transduced through
less dense patterns of energy and encountered another dense
energy pattern which both the collections of dense energy
repell due to molecular and atomic spin.
or there is a wall spirit which will not allow you to pass
or the wall hates you and hurt you on purpose. Bad wall.

There are four examples of intellectual patterns describing the same
event.
all thinking conventions, only the SOM one is the one we learned all our
lives and is supported by the language we use and the logic we invented
and
our entire western culture and thought. Which gives it the illusion that
mind separated by matter is reality itself.

When you see mind and matter as patterns of experience, 
subject object becomes a method of describing those experiences.
It becomes secondary to experience. Not experience itself.







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