sorry bo, i must have missed it. comments below
> Mr Gavin Gee-Clough! > I asked you a question a few days ago, if I have overlooked > your > reply please direct me to it. The said question was this: > > On 31 July you wrote to Krimel: > > > gav: if you are talking of S and O (as primary; and > you are), then > > we are in SOM. yep that old familiar terrain where > objects are > > objects and subjects are subjects and never the twain > shall mingle. > > Agree, but where are we when we are in SOM? That's the > > #¤&%¤# question. Not in another metaphysical > universe, because > the MOQ is supposed to have subsumed SOM. At an evil > pattern > that has hijacked an otherwise neutral intellect, or smack > in the > middle of the 4th. level itself? > > If anyone else has an opinion, please ... gav: where are we when we are in SOM?...we are in the world of western industrial alienation. we are divorced from the ground that gives meaning to our ideas, or to be more accurate SOM obfuscates or devalues this ground of being. this is why bob went nuts surely...he saw through the illusion - he broke the spell. SOM is evil with respect to MOQ because the MOQ is morally superior to SOM: it has greater explanatory power - it is inclusive of the existential/phenomenological aspect of being - the very livingness of life. SOM severs this connection - i see its effects in the differences between the children i teach in the garden: the 16/17 yr olds ask 1/10 of the questions of the 10/11 year olds - the spirit of wonder and curiosity atrophies as kids go further along the institutional conveyor belt...and its all SOM. no-one wants this at an individual level, but at a social level such mollification is valuable....dispirited individuals are more docile. SOM has served its evolutionary purpose - it has taken mankind to the zenith of technological expansion and the nadir of nihilism, and it is time now to transcend both - to integrate technology harmoniously with the living source from whence it springs and to move authentically on from the nihilistic clearspace - to take responsibility wholly and thankfully for one's life and the world as a whole. if the intellect can be analogised as 'hardware' then SOM and MOQ are different operating systems. well that's how i am seeing it at the moment anyway > > Bo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
