hiya,
comments below

> 
> > gav: where are we when we are in SOM?...we are in the
> world of western
> > industrial alienation. we are divorced from the ground
> that gives meaning
> > to our ideas, or to be more accurate SOM obfuscates or
> devalues this
> > ground of being.
> 

 bo: 
Yes, but the MOQ has no "Western industrial
> alienation" level so 
> the question still stands. Pirsig says that the MOQ does
> not abolish 
> the S/O distinction so it must have a place inside the MOQ,
> and - 
> as in my well known opinion - it's the intellectual
> level, everything 
> points to such an interpretation.

gav: SOM is/was the dominant 'operating system' or paradigm of western 
intellect. 
in the east i think we cannot say this....but surely they have intellect bo.
therefore SOM cannot be equated with the intellectual level. QED.


> 


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