Greetings Bo,

"The evidence for the nineteenth-century novelty of scientific objectivity starts with the word itself. The word "objectivity" has a somersault history. Its cognates in European languages derive from the Latin adverbial or adjectival form *obiectivus/obiective*, introduced by fourteenth-centruy scholastic philosophers such as Duns Scotus and William of Ockham. (Tthe substantive form doesn not emerge until ;much later, around the turn of the nineteenth century.) From the very beginning, it was always paired with *subietivus/subiective*, but the terms originally meant almost precisely the opposite of what they mean today. "Objective" referred to things as they are presented to consciousness, whereas "subjective" referred to things in themselves. One can still find traces of this scholastic usage in those passages of the 'Meditationes de prima philosophia (Meditations on First Philosophy, 1641) where Rene Descartes contras the "formal reality" of our ideas (that is whether they correspond to anythng in the expternal world) with their "objective reality" (that is, the degree of reality they enjoy by firtue of their clarity and distinctness, regardless of whether they exist in material form). Even eighteenth-century dictionaries still preserved echoes of this medieval usage, which rings so bizarrely in modern ears: "Hence a thing is said to exist OBJECTIVELY, objective, when it exists no otherwise than in being known; or in being a Object of the Mind."" (Lorraine Daston & Peter Galison, 'Objectivity', Zone Books, October 31, 2007, P.29)


What exactly is SOM? Do you think it has an essence? Seems to be it's _evolved_ over the past 2000 years? Evolved. Meaning different things at what points in its evolution? What are you arguing for/against? You cannot mean the conventional view because there has always been quite a difference between the philosophers/scientific pov and the laypersons pov. The SOL seems to dissolve when you understand that s/o has been a moving target.

Marsha





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