Hi Arlo --


In your philosophical opinion, Ham, did man "evolve" out
of some "other" (perhaps ape, monkey, whatever) or did
man "appear" fully-formed "as is" at some point in the time-line?

You've asked me this before, and I've acknowledged that, from the existential or causal perspective, Home sapiens evolved from more primitive creatures as per Darwin's theory of natural selection. But the biological creature is not what I mean by "self-awareness", as you surely must know. Nor do I mean intellect or the body of human knowledge in the collective sense.

I defined the subjective self (in the first person) as follows for Joseph, before he massacred it:

I am my conscious awareness, the subjective Knower of my
reality. Take away all intellectual, conceptual, and relational
elements from my consciousness, and I remain that which
"knows". This is simple, basic, and self-evident to everyone
with the single exception of those weird Pirsigians who insist
that subjectivity is a myth.

Subjective awareness is whar Kant and other philosophers have called 'noue'.
Evidently, Pirsig does not recognize it and his MoQ has no place for it. I stand by my position that in the absence of awareness there is no experiential reality. So, if Pirsig's theory that Experience = Reality is true, it follows that without awareness there is no universe.

Regards,
Ham

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