Hi Krim see comments
[Krimel]
True enough but what does emerge depends entirely on the stability of the
static patterns that give rise to it. Those patterns establish a certain
range for what is possible because any new emergent possibilities are
constrained by those static relations that give rise to it.
DM: I ask, is constrained and accurate metaphor here (you bondage
freak)? In unleashed not a better metaphor? Do brains constrain
human behaviour and language? Does that really describe the
relationship?
[DM]
Obviously only certain possibilites could emerge based on brains
but brains do not so much constrain the next level up as unleash it.
Take genes as an example, the variation genes are capable of unfolding
is vast, and the known life on Earth is only a tiny fragment of the
possible
combinations genes could actualise. Let alone genes based on different
organic bases. Genes are not so much a constraint as an unleashing.
And brains unleash incredible unpredictable behaviour and experiences.
[Krimel]
But genetic code does constrain the possibilities for variation.
DM: Yes, the free position is endless change and variation,
but genetic code is a very unique example, there is nothing else
like it, but again it unleashes the possibilities that come from
only producing certain very useful/flexible proteins because
it allows the building of stable structures which have incredible
possibilities when allowed to persist and interact with other
complex structures built from proteins.
It can and
obviously does allow tremendous variation but all most all animals about a
certain size have nervous systems encased in bone. They respond to similar
types of energy in the environment. Mammals are constrained to four limbs,
etc. Creativity and the unleashing of potential occur because of constrain
not in spite of it.
DM: Exactly, so we need to bang on about both aspects do we not? And above
all life emerging from the inorganic is about flourishing in the face of
difficult
constraints, because there are great possibilities (DQ) to be found at all
levels
of SQ.
The form of the three minute song produces endless
variation on that constrain. As do the structure of sonnets, the narration
of plot, the specific notes of the scale, as Joe would point out.
DM: And once these have all been explored a way is found to overcome
the constraint and do some prog rock! go Rick Wakeman go!
[DM]
Such is DQ: the actualising of the possible, an infinite resource barely
explored/expressed by our actual universe. Of course as soon as any
parameter is set, such as proton mass, 99.9999% of possible worlds
are made impossible for us, but that still leaves alot of possible worlds
to reduce by another 99.999999% when the next bit of contingency or
SQ is established. Even this email means that this universe will never
enjoy
all the possible emails that I have just failed to create, collapsing
another 99.99999% possible world wave functions. Thins is everytime you
reduce the infinite by 99.999999% you still have a very large finite
universe.
[Krimel]
As Vonnegut notes in Cat's Cradle, if you are stacking cannon balls the
first layer you stack determines or at least constrains the possible shape
of the final stacking.
DM: Exactly, our cosmos is not like cannot balls, because you stack atoms
and are constrained by how atoms can stack, but atoms have possibilities
galore, as can be seen by the range of things in our cosmos, even thinking
things,
what strange things atoms are, my lego and meccano were never that good.
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