sorry - I didn't use the correct punctuation here...

in this sentence - I meant to say this: 

are humans a better state than no humans? is bach a better quality than
Hendrix? we've attempted to address some of these questions before in this
discussion group and I just don't know if I can get into applying the idea
that we are evolving socially or intellectually...changing definitely - but
towards 'better' states?



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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Margaret Warren
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:55 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MD] Can DQ be Bad?
> 
> >
> >
> > Margaret!
> >
> > I liked your post.
> >
> > This:
> > > there is DQ BECAUSE we have SQ...or vice versa.
> >
> >
> > is excactly what I mean.
> >
> > > i.e. there has to be some static pattern before something dynamic can
> > > occur
> > > to change it and vice versa.
> >
> > > we resonate with other entities who share similar perceptions and
> learn
> > a
> > > lot from those entities who have differing perceptions
> >
> > Yes, I agree I think. And I would add, that the Good that is pure
> > Quality/dynamic quality is what keeps the static patterns going, because
> > everything moves toward what they thing quality is, that is from their
> > static and flawed point of view. so when they see another aspect of
> Good,
> > well, then that's dynamic indeed, but the Good was always there,
> > infinitely
> > greater in its whole than they can know/understand/perceive.
> >
> > I think. This way we don't make Plato's mistake.
> >
> Thanks Chris -
> I am going to think over your last paragraph. I think I basically agree
> with
> it. I have problems with the word "Good" - even defining quality as a
> state
> of "Good", because it seems to imply a state that is 'better' - which
> sounds
> quite right as you describe it above, but not
> when I try to apply this reasoning at a much bigger level -
> 
> I don't know if I (a human alive in a collaboratively defined time as 2008
> AD (all subjective) - am in a state that is "Good" relative
> to whatever 'good' state that existed on this planet before humans
> evolved.
> 
> I have a problem with the idea of 'evolution' evolving toward something
> 'better' or with greater quality even.
> 
> I can say that the states change in ways that entities perceive as better
> quality relative to whatever state they were just previously in, but I
> don't
> know that if you try to elevate that thinking to encompass bigger patterns
> -
> 
> are humans a better state than no humans? is bach a better quality than
> Hendrix? we've attempted to address some of these questions before in this
> discussion group and I just don't know if I can get into applying the idea
> that we are evolving socially or intellectually...changing definitely -
> but towards 'better' states.
> 
> So back to the question 'Can DQ be Bad?'
> Since I think Good and Bad are subjective, then I think Static and Dynamic
> Quality is neither  "Good" nor "Bad", but is also both "Good" and "Bad"
> both
> at the same time.
> 
> Sorry about repeating myself - mostly I'm using this e-mail to flesh out
> my
> thoughts a little more.
> 
> Margaret
> 
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