Hi Platt You had cited LILA:
> > "Phaedrus wasn't sure but he seemed to detect a peculiar gentleness > > here on the streets now that he didn't remember from the past. It > > was an ominous gentleness found in old and corrupt cultures, the > > gentleness one hears in Neapolitan street songs and in old Mexican > > canciones. It comes not from an absence of violence but from an > > excess of it. Live and let live. Avoid trouble. It was the > > gentleness of someone who has given up fighting openly because it is > > too dangerous to do so. He had the sickening feeling that something > > like the fall of the Roman Empire was beginning to happen here." > > (LILA) And on 1 Oct. you continued > Pirsig continues in the same paragraph:: > "What was so sinister now about New York was that the patterns that > built it no longer seemed understood-or those who understand the > patterns are no longer in control of those who don't. > "What seemed to allow this deadly night to descend was that the > intellectual patterns that were supposed to be in charge of things, > that should comprehend the threat and lead the fight against it, were > paralyzed. They were paralyzed, not by any external force, but by > their own internal construction, which made them unable to comprehend > what was happening." (Lila, 24) I like it when you take the dear Swedish socialists down a little by such information that the "Fannie Mae" financial institution was founded as a countermeasure for the economical crisis of the thirties. My opinion is that using the MOQ for classifying this "little" item as "intellectual" and that as "social" is in wain, however the big intellect vs society struggle that the above quotes concern is most valid. This struggle goes on and the irony is that the socialists are the ones that undermine SOCIAL VALUE, this stems from the MOQ not being known in general and that some alleged moqists not having grasped what its 3rd. level is about, namely a liberation from the biological level. Magnus the star example of a misconceived social level. Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
