Hi Bo, > I like it when you take the dear Swedish socialists down a little by such > information that the "Fannie Mae" financial institution was founded as > a countermeasure for the economical crisis of the thirties. My opinion > is that using the MOQ for classifying this "little" item as "intellectual" > and that as "social" is in wain, however the big intellect vs society > struggle that the above quotes concern is most valid.
I take my cue as to what marks the intellectual vs. society conflict from Pirsig: "The New Deal was many things, but at the center of it all was the belief that intellectual planning by the government was necessary for society to regain its health." (Lila, 22) The same belief is active today as witness the Wall Street bailout bill just passed in our Senate. > This struggle goes on and the irony is that the socialists are the ones > that undermine SOCIAL VALUE, this stems from the MOQ not being > known in general and that some alleged moqists not having grasped > what its 3rd. level is about, namely a liberation from the biological > level. Magnus the star example of a misconceived social level. Right. Pirsig explains why intellectually-guided socialism is a catastrophe: "These subject-object patterns were never designed for the job of governing society. They're not doing it. When they're put in the position of controlling society, of setting moral standards and declaring values, and when they then declare that there are no values and no morals, the result isn't progress. The result is social catastrophe." (Lila, 24) Not to mention the millions exterminated under various forms of socialism. Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
