Andre, Chris, Platt,

Platt says "Dream on Andre"

Ian says "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in
the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was
vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may
act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible. " (T E Lawrence
/ Faisal ibn Saud)

Or if you prefer "Such dreams that stuff is made of .".... (Thomas
Disch / David Moser, after the bard.)

Pirsig, after Hobbes, and Rawls since, make it clear that naivite in
execution can be a disaster, but dreams are essential to reality

Ian

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Platt Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Andre]
>> Imagine all patterns of value the way they are at the moment but now
>> without
>> money as a social benefit. What will be different? There is no financial
>> incentive/ necessity to do anything...not even financial consequences
>> attached to not doing anything.
>> Anything and everything is all of a sudden possible for many people.
>> The question "Why" am I doing what I am doing becomes important. ( along
>> the
>> lines of the fictitional character in ZMM: our early school drop-out,
>> who
>> works him/herself up from unskilled to semi-skilled to skilled to perhaps
>> an
>> academic career).
>> Quite a number of people will continue doing what they are doing because
>> they like it. They like their work because through it they can express
>> themselves. Other people will now have acces to goods and services
>> previously inaccessable because they are not quite happy with what they
>> are
>> doing and would like to change (eg some study at Uni level which at the
>> moment costs 3000 euros/ half year). They do this because they see and
>> feel
>> the necessity for this not only for themselves but also for "the greater
>> good".
>> People will be able to respond freely to their dharma and can now act on
>> this.
>> It will be a different and dynamic place to work, live and be born into.
>> People will care for the environment, themselves and others because not
>> money but the principle of rta will be the guiding torch. People will
>> naturally want to improve themselves because it is good.
>
> Dream on, Andre."What the Metaphysics of Quality indicates is that the
> twentieth-century intellectual faith in man's basic goodness as spontaneous
> and natural is disastrously naive. The ideal of a harmonious society in
> which everyone without coercion cooperates happily with everyone else for
> the mutual good of all is a devastating fiction." (Lila, 24)
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