At 04:16 PM 10/24/2008, Ham wrote:

Just a quick interjection...


What you seem to be aiming at is a teleology for the behavior of inanimate objects and events. That's commendable, but it's a different concept than claiming that rocks and trees "value" their natural goals and ends. There is a certain "determinism" to the universe in that it's self-sustaining and directed toward the production of viable life forms.

The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end. The operative word is 'interrelated'. It is not self-sustaining. And it directed towards dynamic quality.



What I'm saying is that experience literally CREATES what we see, touch, and feel, and all the properties and laws of existence are intellectualized from that experience. This is what I call proprietary awareness, and it starts with the "value of otherness" which is the locus of self-awareness to which all human beings are sensible. In fact, "being aware" is the individual's fundamental sense of value. Which means that the relational values that one experiences as emotional feelings - awe, joy, moral goodness (or evil) are all constructs of our value sensibility. To make sense of these emotions, the brain and central nervous system integrates organic sensation into a systematic whole which is our worldview. Except for our individuated (space/time) perspective, this view of a physical universe is the same for everybody, because the value we sense is derived from the same essential source.

Experience (Quality) creates both objects and subjects.  It's co-relational.

Sorry to interrupt.


Marsha






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