Ian:
Anyway ... the reason I didn't respond to your blackwater question,
was that implicit in your question about having a problem with
blackwater appearing "at home" was that somehow it hade been ok that
blackwater had been active "abroad".


woods:
    Immoral abroad, just as home, but it is what it is doing 
at home (U.S.) that I'm able to point out to the world and 
show that something, with the letter of the law as the measuring 
stick, is going amuk.  It's a credible urgency.  It 
is a showing what is happening here and how immoral 
the situation has become so the world, people in other countries, 
and in this country can see what is clearly happening.


Ian:
I didn't know where to start, on that, and for me it's not the main
event, unlike ...
I did answer your debate (and gav's) about ... we gotta crisis, what
do we do ... several times. (The second amendement and/or blackwater
are irrelevant to any answer of mine.)


woods:
ok

Ian:
In a nutshell, once you've decided on the call to action ... even
passive resistance, active non-participation, self-sufficent personal
sustainable life-style, whatever, I think we've all bought some
variation of that ... you need to answer the what next (?) question
.... how would you prefer to be governed. (Governance ... as I've said
a few times ... and David M too) and how to bring about that change.
(You have the right to use force, it may even be necessary, but it's
clearly not sufficient.)


woods:
Goverance:  What we have in the U.S. constitution, Bill of Rights, and 
Declaration of Independence are ok with me.  People talking events through, 
like we do everyday with our neighbors.  If we need institutions, then more 
heavily local, the way our constitution intended.

Ian:
Be happy to debate that further .. intellectually ... any time ... but
it will take time, respect and concentration ... true involvement.
(There are only fleeting chances for that on MD.)


woods:
  What I'm throwing out in the forum, such as with blackwater, are 
little pieces of the puzzle, key events forming and these events 
are working in unison.
   I really don't know, it is a very, very good chance, that this country 
will not be able to take another crisis without a tinder box going off 
somewhere.  A bigger more pronounced sign that gov't and people 
have divided.  It may be a small event, in a city somewhere and may 
not even spread out to other parts of the country, but it will show 
the underlying society's subconscious.  These little pieces are 
what I'm trying to fit together.  They are making a much bigger picture.  
If you've seen all of the posts I've been pulling together from various 
sources almost daily about differ events happening almost daily, then you
would have seen a much larger picture of what's happening.


you see?

woods



On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Woods Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Ian:
> Nasty habit I have of answering other people's questions, but I have
> to check out momentarily ... so sorry, but ...
> "Does that mean you give up ?"
> Er no, you knew that, right ? You question was rhetorical. Like how
> hard can t be. It means you use your brains, not a hunting rifle when
> faced with powers far greater than your hunting rifle. ;-)
> Having the "right" to bear arms does not make it a sensible choice.
>
>
>
> woods:
>    Really wasn't trying to be rhetoical.  I've been shouting out
> information for weeks for my civic duty has bumped up a notch
> ever since this economic crisis sent misguidances by
> the gov't into how this is being handled.  I've personally been
> researching about topics that for my whole life I found little or no
> interest but now me eyes have awakened to a whole other event in
> me life.
>    One has a gun, they have it.  It doesn't mean we get rid of the guns
> because we'd be dead in 6 seconds anyways.  I feel I'm missing
> something from what's being said, other than a general call
> to use the brain.  If that's all you and Arlo are saying, then
> ok...  That's like saying to somebody with a flat tire, "Hey,
> you have a flat tire.  You might want to fix that."  Yeah, ok... and ?
>
>
> woods
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