OK, Woods, let's start there.

You got a flat tire, and you gotta gun.
First throw away the gun and look for a more appropriate tool. (Or if
you have an ingenious way of using the gun as a lever, say, be sure to
disarm it before you try, you'll not be needing its human killing
power. You'll need a plan ... ingenuity, engineering, Darwin ...
brains .... so moving on.)

Anyway ... the reason I didn't respond to your blackwater question,
was that implicit in your question about having a problem with
blackwater appearing "at home" was that somehow it hade been ok that
blackwater had been active "abroad".

I didn't know where to start, on that, and for me it's not the main
event, unlike ...

I did answer your debate (and gav's) about ... we gotta crisis, what
do we do ... several times. (The second amendement and/or blackwater
are irrelevant to any answer of mine.)

In a nutshell, once you've decided on the call to action ... even
passive resistance, active non-participation, self-sufficent personal
sustainable life-style, whatever, I think we've all bought some
variation of that ... you need to answer the what next (?) question
... how would you prefer to be governed. (Governance ... as I've said
a few times ... and David M too) and how to bring about that change.
(You have the right to use force, it may even be necessary, but it's
clearly not sufficient.)

Be happy to debate that further .. intellectually ... any time ... but
it will take time, respect and concentration ... true involvement.
(There are only fleeting chances for that on MD.)
Ian

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Woods Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ian:
> Nasty habit I have of answering other people's questions, but I have
> to check out momentarily ... so sorry, but ...
> "Does that mean you give up ?"
> Er no, you knew that, right ? You question was rhetorical. Like how
> hard can t be. It means you use your brains, not a hunting rifle when
> faced with powers far greater than your hunting rifle. ;-)
> Having the "right" to bear arms does not make it a sensible choice.
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> woods:
>    Really wasn't trying to be rhetoical.  I've been shouting out
> information for weeks for my civic duty has bumped up a notch
> ever since this economic crisis sent misguidances by
> the gov't into how this is being handled.  I've personally been
> researching about topics that for my whole life I found little or no
> interest but now me eyes have awakened to a whole other event in
> me life.
>    One has a gun, they have it.  It doesn't mean we get rid of the guns
> because we'd be dead in 6 seconds anyways.  I feel I'm missing
> something from what's being said, other than a general call
> to use the brain.  If that's all you and Arlo are saying, then
> ok...  That's like saying to somebody with a flat tire, "Hey,
> you have a flat tire.  You might want to fix that."  Yeah, ok... and ?
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> woods
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