geez krim, i dig ya man but you are blind on this one. emergence only makes sense in a teleological context...as i have mentioned previously. wallace, lamarck, bergson, de chardin: teleological all of em. if an organism is able to direct the course of its evolution, at any level (as humans we have the unique ability to consciously control the direction of evolution), this implies choice - relative value and evaluation: quality...DQ lalalalalala. this is a lot simpler than trying to squeeze ourselves back into the same outmoded box. talk more later - in a meeting g
--- On Fri, 14/11/08, Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MD] Evolution's new wrinkle: > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: Friday, 14 November, 2008, 4:10 PM > gav, > The article I read suggested nothing amiss in evolutionary > theory. Rather > than challenging the theory, it confirms and expands it. It > said these guys > at Princeton discovered a new kind of static latch that > promotes genetic > stability. Not only that but they made their discovery by > applying > complexity and control theory to the behavior of certain > protein chains. > What they found was a previously unknown feedback system in > cells. This > further illustrates the beauty of a theory that works on > everything from > stars to storms to streams to salmon. > > Rather than a final straw this discovery is just another > brick in the wall. > Teleology is tale for children and religious fanatics. > Krimel > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > [gav] > wrinkle? hmmmm more like the final straw for neo-darwinian > dawkinesque > pea-brain nihilism. > directing the course of their own evolution....? sounds > teleological to me? > how bout you guys? > nice one marsha. > > > > [Marsha] > > "Our new theory extends Darwin's model, > > demonstrating how organisms can subtly direct aspects > of > > their own evolution to create order out of > randomness." > > > http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S22/60/95O56/index.xml?section=to > pstories > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Make the switch to the world's best email. Get Yahoo!7 Mail! http://au.yahoo.com/y7mail Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
