On 11/14/08 8:05 AM, "Andre Broersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Platt and Andre,
IMO A proper analogy to DQ/SQ is Conscious/Mechanical. All our Mechanical
behavior is characterized as ³being in a trance². It is not too far a
stretch for the imagination to reproduce the behavior through hypnotism.
Since DQConscious is undefined, it is hard to know how it is reproduced by
³being in a trance² except as a analogous to Mechanical which would leave
the conscious feelings out.
Joe
<snip>
> Hi Platt, I'm glad you are picking this up (unfortunately it is getting late
> here and I have to get up early, but wanted to respond immediately).
>
> Bandler and Grinder put the 'being in trance' in the generalised context of
> 'being in trance' by one's culture...having one's cultural glasses on/ an
> alternative reality. Much as Pirsig means that to be born and growing up in
> a culture is to be 'hypnotised' into accepting a view of reality from the
> perspective of that culture that that reality is the one and only true
> reality.
> The experience of 'culture shock' comes to mind (which I have experienced)
> when one's culturally informed notions of reality and what should be real
> and acceptable and logically consistent etc etc are completely overthrown by
> the 'confrontation' with another reality...where all these preconceived
> notions are rendered meaningless.
<snip>
> Andre
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