Arlo (& Ham) comment inserted ... On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Arlo Bensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Ham to Andre] > Man is not here by accident or freak mutations. > > [Arlo] > Some clarity, thank you Ham. Some follow-ups. > > 1.) Is anything here by accident or freak mutations? I mean, would you say > "trees are not here by accident or freak mutations" or maybe "The moon is > not here by accident or freak mutations"? Or is it just "man" that enjoys > this status? > > 2.) Was man always intended? During the entire reign of the dinosaurs, was > there still intent to "one day" bring about man? Were did this intent > reside? Is this getting back to a "Primary Source" that needed something to > worship it? If so, why wait? Why create a cosmos devoid of "man" for > billions and billions and years, allowing dinosaurs to reign unchecked for > millions, if the sole goal all along was to produce "man"? >
[IG] Ooooh Errr ... the anthropic view. We get to the "ooops vs god" debate again. Don't get me started. All I would say is that nothing arrived by freak mutation "alone" ... they arrived "naturally". The telos to greater intelligence (through evolving consciousness and freedom) is natural too. > Some unresolved questions. > > 3.) You had said previously that "consciousness evolves". You had tried to > clarify this by saying "creation is an actualized modality of Essence". Can > you verify for me that this means that the process by which consciousness > evolves is rendered by a "Primary Source" that doles out improved models to > subsequent generations, that this is why our consciousness is "more evolved" > than our ancient cavemen ancestors (Essence simply gives us an updated > model). > > More soon, these are enough for now. > > Arlo > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
