Hi Marsha, Mel, Platt, Bodvar and All, Platt:
"If you eliminate suffering from this world you eliminate life. There's no evolution. Those species that don't suffer don't survive. Suffering is the negative face of the Quality that drives the whole process." (Lila, 29) Andre: These posts reminded me of an exerpt from Katagiri's ' Each moment is the Universe' : He (Katagiri) says: 'Dogen has an interesting way of presenting the nature of suffering. He says: 'The past swallows up the present and spits it out.' It's impossible to understand this intellectually, but it means reflecting on yourself. That is dualist human consciousness. When you reflect on yourself, the past swallows up the present. Then suffering appears in your life because, through refecting, you go astray from onenness and suffer from delusion. But then something happens: the past spits out the present. This means gratitude; the past is alive in the present as gratitude because suffering is a great fertilizer. When we reflect on ourselves and suffer, we can realise that we are deluded, repent, and return to oneness. If you break the bottom of suffering, you laugh. Nothing can imitate this-not animals,birds, or trees- nothing! Only humans become great laughter through suffering. When we return to oneness and realise that all lives are the same as ours, we cannot sit in our own smal territory; we start to move and share our life with people because we really appreciate our lives. All at once the past swallows up the present and spits it out*. Pop*! At the pivot of nothingness the next moment unfolds and a new world appears. This is the total dynamic working of time, the process of eternal development'. (p111). For what it is worth. Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
