Marsha: Thanks, by all means.
thanks--mel ----- Original Message ----- From: "MarshaV" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MD] CBC Ideas: Homo (Sapiens) Neanderthalensis & etc. > > > Mel, > > Of course, but only if I may someday read the story. > > > Marsha > > > > > At 11:53 AM 12/26/2008, you wrote: > >Marsha, > > > >May I borrow your question: > >"Do you think people are only capable of changing t > >heir point-of-view if they are suffering?" for a story I > >am writing? > > > >thanks--mel > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "MarshaV" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 2:28 AM > >Subject: Re: [MD] CBC Ideas: Homo (Sapiens) Neanderthalensis & etc. > > > > > > > At 02:51 AM 12/26/2008, you wrote: > > > >Dear All > > > > > > > >Marsha said 25 Dec. > > > > > > > > > This is a two-part series that runs November through December. This > > > > > is a very interesting program, and I liked very much the way it was > > > > > presented. As a podcast it can be downloaded at the website, or it > > > > > can be gotten from iTune subscribe. > > > > > > > > > http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/features/neanderthals/index.html > > > > > > > >Interesting, but what's the bearing on the MOQ? We know about the > > > >Neanderthals. > > > > > > Greetings Bo, > > > > > > Seemed to me the point of the program was that we don't know about > > > the Neanderthals. Science thought one thing. Then, new evidence was > > > found, and now then tend to think something quite different. In > > > fact, it was stated that the real story would probably never be > > > known. Ahhhh. There it is. > > > > > > My interest in the MOQ has taken a different direction. I'm > > > interested in the nature of patterns. The nature of what is > > > mistakenly thought of as an independent self. All patterns, for me, > > > have turned out to be interrelated, interconnected, ever-changing > > > concepts. No independent things. Only conceptual ideas (static > > > patterns of value) overlaid onto dynamic quality. For me, ALL spovs > > > are conceptual patterns. Categorizing patterns as inorganic, > > > biological, social and intellectual is a helpful tool, but not the > > > important aspect of this new point-of-view. > > > > > > Science often seems very arrogant and stupid. What thrilled me about > > > this program was an acknowledgement that what was known has > > > changed. Suddenly something so small seems very hopeful. > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Did you happen to listen to the interview with Eric Fischl? Do you > > > think people are only capable of changing their point-of-view if they > > > are suffering? And it is for the artist to show them and make them > > > experience their suffering? This seems to be a serious question. Or > > > maybe not Some would say to just paint. - Maybe you think change > > > happens when it becomes rational to do so? > > > > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >There surely were other humanoid races around the > > > >globe before the Cro Magnons (with their "modern" neocortex brain) > > > >closed the "window of opportunity" for the other. At least no > >full-fledged > > > >Homo Sapiens suddenly emerged, there were hundred of thousands > > > >of years - millions possibly - before the said humanoid type had > > > >evolved (the biological level's internal evolution) and from then on > > > >scores of millennia before the social level emerged from the said Cro > > > >Magnon's biology (their intelligence IMO) > > > > > > > >By the way, I recently bought a history magazine that brought an article > > > >on the Greek thinkers and started with saying "The philosophers and > > > >scientists of antiquity were the first who tried to explain the world > > > >through reason and logical conclusions. From Thales to Archimedes > > > >they rejected their contemporary religious dogmas and shook their > > > >heads at anything not rational .(snip) .. laid down the fundaments for > > > >all scientific research and the modern Western culture and our time's > > > >democracy" (translated from Norwegian) I've never seen what > > > >happened in Greece presented so close to Pirsig's in ZAMM before. > > > > > > > >Bo > > > > > > > > . > . > Credo of Albert Einstein: Although I am a typical loner in daily > life, my consciousness of belonging to the invisible community of > those who strive for truth, beauty and justice has preserved me from > feeling isolated. > . > . > . > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
