Hello Ham, Was not our society built apon egalitarianism? "Egalitarianism (derived from the French word égal, meaning equal) is a political doctrine that holds that all people should be treated as equals and have the same political, economic, social, and civil rights. [1] Generally it applies to being held equal under the law and society at large. In actual practice, one may be considered an egalitarian in most areas listed above, even if not subscribing to equality in every possible area of individual difference."-wiki also " The United States Declaration of Independence includes a kind of moral and legal egalitarianism. Because "all men are created equal, " each man is to be treated equally under the law. Similar to many other developed nations of the time, it was not until much later that the U.S. society extended these benefits to slaves, women and other groups. Over time, universal egalitarianism has won wide adherence and is a core component of modern civil rights policies."-wiki Are you saying that it was wrong to extend these benefits to women, slaves and other groups? And doesent this make egalitarianism an indigeouse cultural value since it IS part of our founding doctrines? Ham: Why do you find this a "conflict of interest"? Ron: Because you seem to cite individualism as the very cause of multiculuralisms failure.
________________________________ From: Ham Priday <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 4:58:02 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Multiculturalism scam Ham: This isn't to suggest that other cultures are "morally inferior", that we should be intolerant of alien social concepts and practices, or that our social interraction must be bound by "convention". Rather, it's the idea that the values and traditions of our nation's history are indigenous to our culture, and deviating from them in deference to egalitarian, globalist or multicultural ideologies can only weaken and demean the principles this nation stands for. I think your quoted statement (from Bork?) expresses this nationalistic philosophy quite clearly: "Individualism is the moral stance, political philosophy, or social outlook that stresses independence and self-reliance. Individualists promote the exercise of one's goals and desires, while opposing most external interference upon one's choices, whether by society, the state, or any other group or institution. Individualism is opposed to collectivism or statism, which stress that communal, community, group, societal, or national goals should take priority over individual goals. Individualism is also opposed to any tradition, religion, or other form of external moral standard being used to limit an individual's choice of actions." Why do you find this a "conflict of interest"? Best regards for the new year, Ham Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
