Ron Ha :-) Ian
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:12 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > Ian, > You mean using a systematic method of error distinction to judge others is > missing the mark? > > you know Ian, you are right, I owe an apology to Platt, it was rather unfair > of me to label him. > I agree. > -Ron > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Glendinning <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 2:23:23 AM > Subject: Re: [MD] Multiculturalism scam > > In a way Ron / Platt / Bo, I kinda agree with Platt ... > > Exactly which logical trap(s) is a moot point, once you've made the > error of objectifying the things you're applying the logic to (which > is one, or more of of the traps in itself) after that any number of > traps await in a complex situation like explaining the whole of > intellect and causation and evolution of life the universe and > everything. (There are many different processes and "levels of > aggregation" hidden inside the chosen objects.) > > ie The SOMist falls into just about all of the traps from the outset. > Unless they back-up and unpick all the objects they are dealing with > BEFORE making their seemingly rational logical arguments. The > defintional trap is just one manifestation. > > Bo, I have been trying to point out that for all his good intentions > he is using his logic in this blunt misguided, doomed SOMist way. > Platt ... I have already given up on ... (your point about prejudices > will suffice) Sorry. > > Ian > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello Platt, >> I'm sorry I do'nt follow >> you say it is bogus then re-affirm it. >> how does this contrast with MoQ? >> -Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Platt Holden <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 4:38:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [MD] Multiculturalism scam >> >>> Ham and Platt fall to >>> * The Independent Self Trap. In this trap we separate >>> organism from environment, ourselves from our >>> interdependence with others. >> >> The "trap' is bogus. It's based on the SOM idea of self/other. By contrast, >> the MOQ idea is that an individual is a source of thought and a collection >> of ideas . . . "and these ideas take moral precedence over a society." >> Further, only an individual can respond to DQ. >> >> My emphasis on individualism is a matter of moral precedence that supports >> the values of creativity, intellect and self-responsibility. >> >> Platt >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
