Bodvar:
OK, if so the first (ZAMM) diagram actually should have looked like
this:
DYNAMIC QUALITY -slash - STATIC QUALITY
(intellectual or S/O)
In the complete MOQ the static range is enlarged with the four
levels where intellect comes last.
Not the said faulty one:
Quality
|
Dynamic Quality - slash - Static Quality.
(pre-intellectual) (intellectual or S/O)
where Dynamic Value looks like a sub-set of a still more "Primal
Value". Hence the Dynamic Quality/Static MOQ statement that has
done so much harm.
NB.
If Pirsig had meant that thee top box(es) were to disappear after
the splits all would have been fine - SOM would have been the S/O
and the MOQ would have been the DQ/SQ - but as it is the top
boxes remain and has created the said Quality/MOQ
"metaphysics" that seemingly override the MOQ.
Andre:
Bodvar, my reading and understanding of both books ( i.e ZMM and Lila) is
that the latter is a further working out of the former. ZMM lay the basis of
undefined Quality as Reality. Lila became the working out of this basis
through thinking, progression,more thinking, refinement, more thinking,
evolution, more thinking etc,of the metaphysical framework within which to
place this.
Your issue with the boxes refers to the diagram Phaedrus gave to his
colleagues and superiors in his teaching days who tried to nail him down on
where this 'Quality'' was to be found. I also read into it a sort of
justification ,on Phaedrus' behalf, of his (strange) teaching methods
... (you know the story well I am sure). I see it as a sort of working
paper. Also remember that Phaedrus was probably not even aware, at that
time, of the full implications of what he was claiming.
On to Lila, where after years of thinking and refinement he reaches for the
knife and starts cutting: 'DQ/SQ became the basic division of his emerging
MoQ...not subject and object but static and Dynamic is the basic division of
reality' (Lila p 119). ( NOT reality and then DQ/SQ, there never was any
sub-set!)
Pirsig has repeated this in his SODV paper (p12, fig 4). There is no hint
left of the diagram in ZMM but a more refined, carefully thought through
division of reality represented in diagram form exactly as he stated it in
Lila years before.
So, I am a little mystified as to the harm done. What harm has been done and
who did it?
For what it is worth
Andre
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