Hi Kieffer 19 Feb. you wrote:
> you said to David: > Interaction - Sensation - Emotion - Reason > > (inorganic) (biology) (social) (intellect) > In general i like your interaction, sensation, emotion, reason; its an > attractive procession! > But that animals "dont emote"! i refer you to Darwin's 'The Expression > of Emotions in Man and Animals' Darwin did not bring Pirsig's books along on the "Beagle" ;-) so he was a somist and in SOM (or at the 4th level) there are only the matter and mind realms, and animals (the higher) are matter only so complex that they begin to displayed mind-like attributes like emotions.. Now, enter the MOQ which divide isn't mind/matter but DQ/SQ (and the former M/M is intellect's value) so when I say (to David Swift) that animals seeming emotions aren't the real thing, it's not a somist speaking who wants animals to be low on the "mind/matter" scale, but a moqist who wants them to be at the correct level, namely the biological, not the social which came to pass with humanity and where emotions are its "expression" (according to my list). > i guess you dont have any pets! That's correct, but I have seen how dogs beg and cats purr when they want something and growl and hiss if they want to scare someone away. But - as said - these are "social" signs in a "society in biology's service" sense. They neither hate nor love. Bo. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
