Hey Paca, 

> The uncreated Creator is experienced in meditative-contemplative prayer--
> this from the testimony of mystics, artists, and even of ordinary people.
> The experience is a peek-peak experience. But language fails to express
> the total experience. The language of art-poetry gives us a glimpse.  

I don't know about experiencing Ham's "uncreated Creator," but I have no 
doubt that one's experience of the indefinable meets the demands of 
scientific evidence by anyone willing to admit she has been moved by music 
or other work of art.

Platt

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