Marsha said to David Swift:Philosophizing indeed, and with such a distinguished 
list as Hobbes, Hume, Locke and Kant.  It's hard to believe there would be 
exact agreement between these philosophers, especially in regards to a word 
like 'feeling' with its many definitions and multiple layers of connotation.  
Maybe you can offer some quotes as evidence to establish their agreement of 
usage and definition. ...'Feeling' like all sq is sometimes conventionally 
useful and has a beauty of its own.


dmb says:I think that's right. Feelings and instincts would probably be a 
static biological response to DQ. Hume was an empiricist and so is Pirsig but 
there is an important distinction between the traditional forms of empiricism 
and the radical empiricism of the MOQ. The former is also called sensory 
empiricism because it holds that the external objective world comes to us 
through the senses, through the sense organs, and it does so from within the 
assumptions of subject-object metaphysics. The radical empiricism of William 
James, which is adopted by the MOQ, differs from this by both rejecting the 
metaphysical assumptions and by expanding the notion of what counts as 
empirical evidence. In traditional empiricism we experience reality through the 
senses but in radical empiricism experience is reality. 



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