At 03:20 PM 3/1/2009, you wrote:
david B on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:41: you posted
Marsha said to David Swift: Philosophizing indeed, and with such a
distinguished list as Hobbes, Hume, Locke and Kant. It's hard to believe
there would be exact agreement between these philosophers, especially in
regards to a word like 'feeling' with its many definitions and multiple
layers of connotation. Maybe you can offer some quotes as evidence to
establish their agreement of usage and definition. ...'Feeling' like all sq
is sometimes conventionally useful and has a beauty of its own.
dmb says: I think that's right. Feelings and instincts would probably be a
static biological response to DQ. Hume was an empiricist and so is Pirsig
but there is an important distinction between the traditional forms of
empiricism and the radical empiricism of the MOQ. The former is also called
sensory empiricism because it holds that the external objective world comes
to us through the senses, through the sense organs, and it does so from
within the assumptions of subject-object metaphysics. The radical empiricism
of William James, which is adopted by the MOQ, differs from this by both
rejecting the metaphysical assumptions and by expanding the notion of what
counts as empirical evidence. In traditional empiricism we experience
reality through the senses but in radical empiricism experience is reality.
DS says: Thanks for making the distinction. Are you all in agreement that
TiTs don't exist in MoQ? Have you gone completely over to the idealism of
Schopenhauer? If so what sense do you make of the inorganic SQ level?
Greetings David,
For me there are no TiTs, not even on the Inorganic Level. Not
rocks, not mountains, not atoms are discreet entities. No
phenomenon, no static patterns of value have inherent existence. I
am not a Materialist or an Idealist. Rocks, mountains and atoms
exist conventionally, but are empty of inherent existence.
Marsha
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