Platt to Andre: Be assured I too don't have the slightest idea if what I say is ontological, epistemological or philosophical/metaphysical. I'm just the son of a draftsman.
Andre: Platt, thanks for your response. I think that this is the thing I am questioning: the ontological, epistemological philosophical /metaphysical considerations that are going on. We (through the MoQ) are into a new way of looking/thinking about things. I am reminded of a very good friend I had. He died at my age ,at that time (42). He developed stomach cancer. He left three children and a wife. He told me of many of his conversations with his brother (very religious) quoting the bible etc. And he said one day: 'Andre, I do not want to hear those things from the bible, I want to live...NOW, and that is something my brother does not understand. He tells me I should do this and I should do that...but I do not feel that that is the way to go". I want to be me!' To have (SOM) philosophical arguments and definitions thrown in to try and understand and add to this MoQ ( including religious convictions built on uncertainties but confirmed by a QUALITY FOUNDATION) sometimes leaves me baffled. The MoQ , through Robert M. Pirsig invites us to go outside of SOM and and go deep within ourselves to resolve the S/O concept (SOM), make the subject the object and the object the subject. An interrelation between the S and the O because both do not exist (their separation are intellectual constructs/concepts..not reality) Platt, I think that the reason why I am telling you this is that we have to live now. I know we are working on an MoQ but we have to take risks. We have to say what we feel and think that is right. I firmly believe that Mr. Pirsig wanted to re- establish the human element within his philosophy. The human element that was lost with Plato and incarcerated with Aristotle. What is good Phaedrus? Is 'Good" a concept? Is it a mental construction? For the Buddhist it is a way of life. Why do we make it so difficult? ( All this questioning stuff generated from SOM and S/O dualities.). Pirsig simply states that a large part of the MoQ is based on Oriental mysticism. ( 'On the Road' DVD). We Westerners have difficulty with this... Time to let go...of everything.! Is 'good' to be sliced up yet again (through SOM) and do people still not accept/understand GOOD as a noun? Good night Platt, Regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
