> [Krimel]
> Frankly the mind/matter incarnation of this particular duality is a much
> clearer and better statement of the issue than SOM but so be it. To the
> extent that SQ/DQ do actually replace mind/matter it is because they
> actually are more fundamental in nature. The mind/matter myth leaves the
> impression that mind could even conceivably exist in the absence of
> matter.
> This is foolishness. Mind/subjects emerge from matter. They cannot and
> do
> not exist independently of matter. 

Mind emerges from no-mind? Now there's a leap of religious faith ever there 
ever was one.


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