> Platt, > I think it's great that you endeavor to be an individual seeking freedom > from static patterns without destroying those patterns, the point I get > from those quotes is that static patterns may be changed by individuals, > therefore the real worth of a social pattern is it's openess to > intellectual > alterations while maintaining the biological control it was intended to > supply. > > Where Pirsig goes off the trail is by assuming that a chemistry > professor > is a collection of inorganic patterns arranged to function biologically > when a chemistry professor is a collection of social/intellectual > patterns. > -Ron
Ron: I think Pirsig was illustrating the emptiness of the scientific view of man as being fundamentally a chance conglomeration of quantum particles, chemicals and electrical forces. As for social patterns being "open" to intellectual change, the problem is that the current intellectual pattern of SOM is bereft of morals. As a result we get intellectual social systems like communism that kill millions for the sake of the "public good." Platt ________________________________ > From: Platt Holden <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:50:08 AM > Subject: Re: [MD] Catching up to Pirsig > > [Ron] > > My point is , should'nt we be applying what we have learned from > Pirsig? > > rather than getting caught up in these habitual games? > > I've learned much from Pirsig and I apply what I've learned as often as I > can, especially his belief that "What's good is freedom from domination by > any static pattern, but that freedom doesn't have to be obtained by the > destruction of the patterns themselves."(Lila, 24) and, "My personal > feeling is that this is how further improvement of the world will be done, > by individuals making Quality decisions and that's all." (ZMM) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
