[Ron]
> My point is , should'nt we be applying what we have learned from Pirsig?
> rather than getting caught up in these habitual games?

I've learned much from Pirsig and I apply what I've learned as often as I 
can, especially his belief that "What's good is freedom from domination by 
any static pattern, but that freedom doesn't have to be obtained by the 
destruction of the patterns themselves."(Lila, 24)  and, "My personal 
feeling is that this is how further improvement of the world will be done, 
by individuals making Quality decisions and that's all." (ZMM)   
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