hey dave, i respect your thoughts probably more than anyone's mate, so it is very welcome to hear that you are feeling the same sorta stuff..
i would be disappointed if you weren't skeptical about 2012! i rely on your intellectual rigour to stop me getting too carried away (only half joking). perhaps all prophecies are simply devices - self-fulfilling. if they capture the imagination, in enough people, then it becomes real....perhaps. perhaps all the new age stuff provokes us to imagine what a new world could be like, how it could happen, what we really want out of life..... in any case there is no turning back now.....got a ticket to ride as they say....(that's for you ant!) --- On Fri, 17/4/09, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: From: david buchanan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MD] Catching up to Pirsig To: [email protected] Received: Friday, 17 April, 2009, 2:07 PM Gav: I'm a bit skeptical about the whole 2012 thing and McKenna's ideas struck me as being at the very edge of what's credible and yet things do seem to be sort of coming together all at once. It seems that many of the old ways of thinking and being are exhausted, spent. Its interesting that Obama, a man who doesn't just advocate diversity but embodies it physically and biographically, has come along just as cowboy capitalism crashes and global warming is heating things up. It seems the very atmosphere will force a crisis and then a change. I suppose its gonna get ugly before it gets better but apparently that's what it takes to make changes. Rock bottom for the twelve-steppers and humanitarian catastrophes for the nations are the same thing on different scales, or something like that. And I tend to think you're right about a move toward the feminine. This is not good news for just for the chicks. There's something about the denigration of the body, of the earth and of women that is all of a piece. These are all aspects of the same general distortion, different features of a culture that has failed to balance masculine and feminine qualities. It would probably help if someone would explain how masculine things, mechanical things could be seen as a form of art, as a particular kind of beauty.. Oh, wait. Somebody already did that. It was some author who wrote "The Tao of Unicycle Care" or something like that. I'll look it up and get back to you. dmb > Date: The new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7: Faster, Safer, Easier. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
