Returning to the old way of thinking, the Upanishads,  We can easily get into a 
semantic
debate here.  What is the difference between philosophy and so called "mystical 
thought".
I believe that there is an agreed upon difference.  Metaphysics can easily 
become
ones own perception only, are we just a brain in a vat?

The trouble with that for me, is, it becomes entirely personalized and of no use
to social consciousness.  What is good? Need anyone tell us?  My interpretation
of the metaphysical endeavor is to try to put together a system which can be
exchanged through dialogue.  A group awareness, if you will, that is separate
from the personal awareness.  I believe such a thing exists.

Are there laws outside of our experience?  Do we simply create the world around 
us?
Which is a more useful way of thinking from a sociological point of view?

I don't think these are new ideas, but perhaps worth another round.

Cheers,

Willblake2

On May 7, 2009, at 4:48:12 PM, "Steve Peterson" <[email protected]> 
wrote:
>
> the end of purely abstract philosophy at least.
> but yes in a way most academic philosophy is becoming redundant as the 
> existential takes precedence over the 'essential' (by which i mean the 
> illogical idea of immutable 'real' laws, facts etc that are 
> ontologically prior to experience).
>
> the existential is direct, dynamic, integrated, 
> mythopoetic...philosophy now moves toward direct engagement: 
> facilition over inculcation.
>
> philosophy become playful, creative, personal.
>

Would you also say, "Pirsigian"? Or was Pirsig hopping on board an 
existing trend in philosophy?


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