On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Platt Holden <[email protected]> wrote:

Bloom's book is on my list of all time favorites. His observations about
> education and the decline in American culture are as accurate today as
> they were 20 years ago.
>

It's been a while for me, but that is one that stuck with me through the
years and I'm glad to find somebody else who has read it.



>
> The election of Obama is a shining example of the power of the statist
> propaganda machine.


Hmm..  I like that, "statist propaganda machine".  It's so much more clear
than "media".



> You can bet they will continue to use it to justify
> their takeover of  banks, auto companies, the health care system and
> whatever else they want. Note that the first thing they do to bamboozle
> the public to accept their grab for power is to create a phony crises,
> e.g.,
> global warming.
>

Well I don't follow the "party line" on global warming.  I believe something
far more interesting has been happening than anybody's mentioned.  I'm sure
the globe was warming for a while - unusual fluctuations of nature are not
unusual!  But like Howard Hughes in his temp controlled ivory tower, when
you control so much you always need to control more.

Thus the statist propaganda machine cranked up a disinformation campaign to
try and lower global temperature.  And it's probably not a bad idea from an
objective scientific experimental mode.  You get a baseline for how much
power a statist propaganda machine can wield when it really tries.


> The controls you mention are government controls legally enforced at the
> the point of a gun. Capitalist corporations have no such power.




They in fact hold far more.  They make the guns they sell the guns they hire
the guns.

Probably the worst example of statism in the world today is China.  But how
can we in America stand off afar and condemn their practices when it's OUR
tennis shoes that were hand-crafted by slave labor?    If we benefit from
exploitation then we can't condemn it.   Sweet-heart deals in high places
 involve Capitalist corporations AND the state.  And furthermore Platt, when
you say "statist propaganda machine", you are talking about a machine
created and owned be the biggest capitalist entities in the world.




The reason for hostility to the free exchange of ideas -- political
correctness.


Well I doubt there's ever just one reason for hostility, but any emotional
reaction to contradiction is likely due to ego threat - and usually if ego
on one side is involved it's because ego on the other side is also involved.
 It takes one to know one!

Thanks for the dialogue, I'm off to chop wood and dig in the garden.

John
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