On 12 May 2009 at 9:07, John Carl wrote: [Platt] > > The controls you mention are government controls legally enforced at the > > the point of a gun. Capitalist corporations have no such power. [John] > They in fact hold far more. They make the guns they sell the guns they hire > the guns.
Guns and other deadly weapons are made in communist, socialist, fascist and other economic systems besides capitalist. So that's not the issue. The issue is who can legally use them to coerce people to do things. You and I and businesses we work for can't. Governments can. > Probably the worst example of statism in the world today is China. But how > can we in America stand off afar and condemn their practices when it's OUR > tennis shoes that were hand-crafted by slave labor? If we benefit from > exploitation then we can't condemn it. Sweet-heart deals in high places > involve Capitalist corporations AND the state. And furthermore Platt, when > you say "statist propaganda machine", you are talking about a machine > created and owned be the biggest capitalist entities in the world. What is often called "slave labor" is also called cheap labor compared to the cost of union labor. What is often called "exploitation" is also called a better living by those affected. What are often called "sweetheart deals" are also called corrupt politics. As for the "statist propaganda machine" being capitalist, I simply refer you to how the major media slant the news in favor of Statists. [Platt] > The reason for hostility to the free exchange of ideas -- political > correctness. [John] > Well I doubt there's ever just one reason for hostility, but any emotional > reaction to contradiction is likely due to ego threat - and usually if ego > on one side is involved it's because ego on the other side is also involved. > It takes one to know one! No doubt egos are involved in hostility as in most everything else. One man's virtue may be another man's sin. The wonderful thing about a free market is that buyer and seller, with competing and sometimes hostile egos, both get what they want peacefully. Great to have your participation on this site, John. Regards, Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
