Hey Ham,
Thanks for the mention and all, but I have to say you and I are
philosophically speaking, miles apart.

I started out in my youth in a philosopophy that was very, very
anti-anthropocentric.  It made sense then and it makes sense now that if you
make your reality subjective, you haven't got a you to stand on.

Furthermore, my recent hero of choice is Josiah Royce, the Absolute Idealist
who utterly refutes this stance and proves logically that the entire
universe is made within the context of absolute value - and that the
structure of the cosmos is an ethical culture.

I see my task here as to bring Royce to the Pirsigians in  metaphysically
confirmational way, in opposition to W. James - Royce's lifelong friend and
philosophical antagonist.

That's just who I am right now.  I'm open, but I've got my static baggage
like anybody.

And secondly; I still like the term "People of Quality".  I use it in my
head all the time and guess what?  It includes you, Ham.  Even though we
fundamentally disagree, you care about Quality.  Royce wrote a wonderful
philosophy of Loyalty with a chapter called "Loyalty to Loyalty" and it
resonates with Caring about Quality.  And I know it when I see it.

I don't see it in Individual Valuism.
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