Hi Ham,

You said:
For some time now I have been trying to advance the concept that Quality (i.e., Value) is subjective rather than universal in nature.

Steve:
This statement represents a profound misunderstanding of Pirsig. I wonder at how someone could have participated for so long on this forum and still make such a statement.

Pirsig does not try to make value objective but rather wants to undercut the whole subjective/objective dichotomy. There is no subjectivity and objectivity in Pirsig's philosophy in the way you use the terms. Objective in the MOQ just means "things that are easy to get agreement on" like inorganic and biological patterns, and subjective just means "things that are hard to get agreement on" like social and intellectual patterns. Value can be either objective or subjective depending on the situation.

Best,
Steve


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