Hey Bo,
Welcome back. As usual your analysis is right on target. I hope your art show was a successful as your MOQ interpretation is faultless. Until the defect in SOM is acknowledged, the current slouching of Western civilization toward Gomorrah will continue, aided and abetted, unfortunately, by some on this site. Platt, On Sodom and Gomorrah: Classical Jewish texts do not stress the homosexual aspect of the attitude of the inhabitants of Sodom as much as their cruelty and lack of hospitality to the "stranger." The Jewish Encyclopedia[1] has information on the importance of hospitality to the Jewish people. The people of Sodom were seen as guilty of many other significant sins. Rabbinic writings affirm that the Sodomites also committed economic crimes, blasphemy and bloodshed[2]. One of the worst was to give money or even gold ingots to beggars, after inscribing their names on them, and then subsequently refusing to sell them food. The unfortunate stranger would end up starving and after his death, the people who gave him the money would reclaim it. A rabbinic tradition, described in the Mishnah, postulates that the sin of Sodom was related to property: Sodomites believed that "what is mine is mine, and what is yours is yours" (Abot), which is interpreted as a lack of compassion. Another rabbinic tradition is that these two wealthy cities treated visitors in a sadistic fashion. One major crime done to strangers was almost identical to that of Procrustes in Greek mythology. This would be the story of the "bed" that guests to Sodom were forced to sleep in: if they were too short they were stretched to fit it, and if they were too tall, they were cut up. On 19 May 2009 at 17:22, [email protected] wrote: > Platt, DMB and old & new participants > > 18 May Platt wrote: > > > What DMB omits from his slanted left-wing socialist interpretation of > > the MOQ is the following: > > > "In the time that Phaedrus grew up, intellect was dominant over > > society, but the results of the new social looseness weren't turning > > out as predicted. Something was wrong. The world was no doubt in > > better shape intellectually and technologically but despite that, > > somehow, the "quality" of it was not good. There was no way you could > > say why this quality was no good. You just felt it." (Lila, 22) > > > So much for intellectual control of society. > > On this issue Platt is on solid MOQ ground. The intellectual level's > dominance of the social level - without MOQ's level knowledge to > moderate it - has caused much social insecurity. This is what great > parts of LILA is about. and this will continue until the MOQ is > understood correctly, i.e. in the SOL light. Look to Pirsig's above "...in > better shape intellectually and technologically". Science is SOM's > foremost pattern, thus SOM is no foreign object that has entered the > 4th level, but the very article. > > No level can "check" itself, the 3rd. went all out in a social frenzy > whiled it was "leading edge", humans as biological organisms (2nd. > level value) was valuable only to the degree they were willing to > sacrifice themselves for "the common cause". We still see it in the > social value-steeped cultures - particularly the islamic one - where the > individual has no chance if not part of the faith and the will to sacrifice > the highest good. It was not until intellectual value emerged that > individual worth and humanism gradually took precedence. > > But intellect is a static level and can as little check itself as the rest > and > its relentless subduing of social value knows no limit and has caused > the said looseness and insecurity. Intellect's S/O don't recognize any > personal responsibility, we are either determined by our genes > (objectivity) or victims of social injustice (subjectivity) . Only from > MOQ's meta-level can the complete picture be seen, but this requires > the 4th level to be regarded as initially intended. As long as we want > the MOQ accepted by intellect's (=academy's) terms ... forget it. > > > Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
