Willblake2 asked:
Is Quality the immediate present (which is timeless), or is it more than
that?

[Krimel]
Dave can fill you in on the Aw Gi party line but his friend Rosenthal says
in her lecture that the present is not timeless at all. It carries with it
the remnants of the past and potential of the future. 

Willblake2
I would say, with due respect to Rosenthal, that there are no remnants in
the immediate 
present.  As soon as it is captured and converted to neuronal activity or
thought,
it is already the past.  This takes many thousands of microseconds.  The
immediate
present has no past or future.  I suppose this is Quality, but how would I
know the 
unknowable?  Don't know, but I do, just like everybody else does, every
instant 
of every day.  "I" am the knower and Quality is known (with apologies to
Pirsig).

[Krimel]
But keep in mind those milliseconds. Stuff is happening during them.
Information is becoming meaning. We can't experience the immediate in the
way you describe because time is continuous. It is infinitely divisible but
we only experience it when it is slurred by processing.


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