Note to Willblake2: See where this leads? See what you are dealing with? Is this really where you want to be heading? Krimel
-------------------------------------------- > Hi Platt, > > I think Pirsig was right that evolution doesn't make sense as a > cause or a purpose. Some think it is a tautology. The fittest survive; > how do we know they are the fittest? Because they survive. > > For this and many other reasons, I have jumped off the evolution band > wagon. We are here because we are here, it says. It cannot > predict what is being evolved to. Glad to see you join the crowd of those jumping off the evolution band wagon. It's high time for Darwinists to admit their shortcomings and start looking elsewhere for a better theory, like Pirsig's MOQ where an inner drive towards versatility and freedom of an expanding consciousness answers the Darwinist tautology of "It is what it is." > It seems that those species with the shortest life-span evolve the > most quickly, then a shorter lifespan is favored, which wouldn't > correlate with the fear of death. One of the issues unanswered by evolution is how one species becomes another. Fruit flies have a short life span and can mutate into all sorts of weird forms. But, regardless of mutation, once a fruit fly, always a fruit fly. > So my perception, is that nature does not reverse this process, because > it doesn't exist. A better model for the way things are could be transformation > or change. Why there is change, I have no idea. Change occurs as a result of DQ seeking greater freedom and versatility. That's the MOQ answer to your question. What puzzles me is that the present never changes, but everything that changes changes in the present. I guess Quality is the never changing present with DQ the change agent.. > But with the same > tautology as evolution, everything changes therefore it is real. There is a > desire to change within everyone, we mistake that for the desire to evolve. > It is possible that we think change is directional, but it is circular. We go from > lying down, to crawling, to two legs, to crawling to lying down. Individually over a lifespan, yes. But life itself, the "Me Program," lives on. > Where are we evolving from or to. Evolution is certainly not linear. Fish came > out of the sea and became sheep, then the sheep went back to the ocean to > become whales. Maybe the whales will come out again. They are all meant > to change, not to survive. Evolution's direction is toward betterness, according to the MOQ. The evolution of expanding consciousness gives life more versatility and freedom as a result of DQ's influence. > So we have change which I believe is circular. Circular motion is much more > common than any other motion. This means that the past resembles the future. Change to me means movement towards betterness although it has its ups and downs. Right now we're going through a down period, losing freedom day by day. > Oh, and it is just a matter of time before the big bang theory falls apart. Actually, the theory fell apart some time ago because it couldn't answer "What caused the Big Bang?" and "Why?" Regards, Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
