On 3 Jun 2009 at 6:29, X Acto wrote: > Platt, > To view things as a baby and how Pirsig mentions, is to drop the stereotypes > we hold and take a fresh new look. Like looking at the positives of socialism > communism and capitalism and combine them to create a society that actually > DOES value the individual, valuing individuals other than YOURSELF is > socialism you know.
What are the positives of socialism and communism? Is making other individuals dependent on government for their welfare your idea of "valuing" them? > That is why I have a hard time understanding your dichotomy > of value of the individual in society yet despise anything that has to do > with it > . You exalt the diversity of individuals yet despise multiculturalism > when what you really despise is moral relativism, Just in case you've forgotten, here's what Pirsig had to say about multiculturism which demands we value all cultures equally: "Cultures can be graded and judged morally according to their contribution to the evolution of life." (Lila, 24) > Pirsig gives us > a way to make moral judgments without the typical stereotypes > that hinder us from making Quality judgments or the paralysis > of relativism. Agree. > I'll save you the effort of the > Lila quote. > > In the veldt it's the individual that gets eaten first. United we stand, > divided we fall. > Safety in numbers. In what chapter in Lila will I find that quote? > The idea is to look at the Quality in everything Platt, this is what babies > do. Right. But Quality has a negative side, too. That's why among a baby's first words is, "No!". > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 7:49:34 AM > Subject: [MD] Think like a baby > > All: > > There's a book out called "The Philosophical Baby." The Boston Globe > has an interesting review at: > > http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/04/26/inside_the > _baby_mind/?page=full > > If you read it I think you'll be reminded of Pirsig's thoughts about the > world as seen by babies in Chapter 9 of Lila. Perhaps you'll recall these > words: > > "This, Phaedrus thought, was why little children are usually quicker to > perceive Dynamic Quality than old people, why beginners are usually > quicker than experts, why primitive people are sometimes quicker than > those of "advanced" cultures." > > To perceive DQ -- isn't that our goal? The article suggests how we just > might be able to do that more often. > > Regards, > Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
