One very interesting idea that I think was missed 
in the discussion is there is a difference between 
the State and the government.  The State is the police, 
military, teachers, courts, defense contracts, etc... all agencies 
that receive their income via taxes currently.  These are 
all necessary aspects of society.  These structures 
would stay in place.  It's the government that needs 
to go.  It doesn't do anything but bottom feed.  The State has 
statists and they are people who push for the State to 
increase it's power and they have material self-interests too.  
But without a government backed coercive monopoly these 
institutions can join the free market and their power demands 
would find no monopoly backing.  These institutions would 
need to reach out to the consumers and through free market 
competitive forces the efficiency in these institutions will become 
superb.  They will find themselves competing and trying to sell 
the best they can offer or they go bankrupt.  Voting using dollars 
is way more efficient than voting in what you believe is right but don't 
actually do what is right.  It's about our immediately experienced actions.  
The real human action is in the free market civil society.  Not by 
government coercive monopolies decided by high preference time politicians 
(only think of the present and don't have the foresight about any future 
planning
 at all).  The State would readjust and these jobs would still be here.  These 
institutions 
would still be here.  They run on their own now.  Politicians can't decide well 
enough on what to do anyways without asking State officials to come to their 
offices and 
give them advice.  Politicans don't involve themselves in any direct action 
except to coerce.  
The civil society and free market decides using free-will now anyways except 
the government screws it up with their centralized planning that has been 
going on for decades.  It's time these parasites go.  They are immoral and 
criminal.  
Let liberty happen and humans will flourish.  Quality is the telos.  I trust 
the Church 
of Reason not the "Montana Governor who's actions abhor reason".


Nick


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