I'll let Lu speak for herself. If she says I misinterpreted her I'll be the
first to apologize.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:

> Platt,
> This statement is a perfect example of how you do not really read
> and understand what someone is saying. Lu is primarilarly calling
> you a greedy spoiled child and you applaud it!
> her quote:
> "> "I have my rights, sir, and I'm telling you, I intend to go on doing
> just
> > what I do!" (the Onceler to the Lorax, Dr. Seuss)"
>
> slaps your ideals right in the face and you applaud it!
>
> just because she said that if you would actually live in a socialist
> monarchy, under a military dictatorship you would'nt be as quick to equate
> the current
> administration with those regimes.
>
> You are really starting to live up to those ad hominems
>
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> ________________________________
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:35:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider
>
>  On 9 Jun 2009 at 14:08, Louise Pryor wrote:
>
> > Americans who hate their country, hate it with the naive ferocity of
> those
> > who have no idea how the rest of the world operates. Having lived in a
> > socialist monarchy, under a military dictatorship, in a tropical
> paradise,
> > and in a democracy, I have a different view of America. The hope my
> father
> > had, when he brought us here (legally) was of America as the land of
> > promise. "In America anyone can be anything they want to be" was his
> > understanding. He came here with $400 in his pocket and the promise of a
> > job. And because what he believed is true, he found what he was looking
> for.
> >
> > I grant that the American government is not perfect, and may be far from
> > what the founding fathers had in mind, but it still has a foundation of
> > freedom, whereby Nick can declare his "rights to personal property" -
> right
> > out loud - with very little actual threat that anyone will come in and
> take
> > it away from him - and plenty of recourse if anyone did.
> >
> > "Rights to personal property", and "individual rights", are not something
> > commonly recognized world wide. The rest of the world sees Americans, in
> > general, as greedy,  spoiled children.
> >
> > "I have my rights, sir, and I'm telling you, I intend to go on doing just
> > what I do!" (the Onceler to the Lorax, Dr. Seuss)
> >
> > Lu
>
> Well said, Lu. Unfortunately we see the socialist mind at work in the
> overt censorship of Nick whose presence here has been summarily
> taken away from him by fiat while those who blasphemed him as a
> "whack-job," "paranoid violent nutcase," and "time for your meds again"
> are given a free pass. Although I find ad hominem attacks a sign that
> the attacker has nothing of value to say, I would never attempt to take
> away his right to say it. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
> expressed the essence of free speech as etched in the U.S.
> Constitution:
>
> "If there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls
> for attachment than any other it is the principle of free thought--not free
> thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought we
> hate."
>
> It's clear that many Europeans and others around the world do not share
> this quintessential American value.
>
> Platt
>
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